河村勇輝が12分で7アシスト、ブルズファンの反応（まとめ（海外の反応）

英語圏最大の電子掲示板Redditの「r/chicagobulls (ブルズ板)」

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Amateur-Dog-Walker
“It’s a simple game, folks.”
（「バスケはシンプルだぜ、みんな」）

East_Time7888
He hustles but his size is a real liability, there was a pass into the post last night that was just above his limited reach. Free cheese.
（気合はあるけどサイズが致命的。昨日のポストへのパス、届かない高さだった。無料得点）

armaghetto
Yeah, he had an amazing behind the back pass to Buzelis for the easy dunk, then immediately got murdered in the post on the other side. That’s less on him and more on everyone else who let a 5’7” guy protect the rim.
（ブゼリスへの超絶背面パスで簡単ダンクの直後に、反対側のポストでボコられた。5フィート7の選手にゴール下守らせる方が問題）

LMGgp
Not to mention all the failed drives. I like him, especially his hustle. But if you’re 5’8 driving to the hole, you can’t be trying to finger roll in a layup. It’s gonna get shut down everytime. Unless the defender is no where in sight. Those blocks last night were brutal. I was also not a fan of the refusal to take a shot. Lot of wide open opportunities.
This has Billy’s hands written all over it.
（ドライブ失敗も多い。好きだけど、5’8で突っ込んで指先ロールは毎回止められる。相手がいなければ別だけど。昨夜のブロックはキツかった。シュート打たないのも不満。ドフリー多かった。これはビリーの影響くさい）

dirtyricher
He’s constantly going to be targeted. It’s just a simple fact dudes like him don’t have many places in the league.
（常に狙われる。こういう体格の選手がリーグで居場所少ないのは現実）

IndependentLast364
He’s quick getting the ball up in offence but he can’t score unless he’s wide open on his own and he’s been out muscled. The height difference is just too much. This player is not nba quality. I am finding it so difficult to watch this small ball today’s NBA.
（オフェンスの立ち上げは速いが、ドフリーじゃないと点が取れない。フィジカルでも負ける。身長差が大きすぎる。NBAレベルではない。今のNBAの小柄路線は見ててキツい）

Akugendengdewecok
He’s got genuinely good PG skills, but his height is a huge liability. A smart, well-coached team will exploit the mismatch like we saw last night. If he were 5 or 6 inches taller, he’d find regular backup minutes on some NBA team.
（PGスキルは本物だけど身長が致命的。賢いチームは昨日みたいにミスマッチを突く。あと5〜6インチあれば普通に控えで出られる）

tjswish
If he was 6ft 2 he’d be a starter with a strong future. Patty Mills played for over 10 years at 6 ft
（6’2なら将来有望な先発になれた。パティ・ミルズも6フィートで10年以上やってる）

Whole-Signature-4306
This guy has no floater in his game for some reason
（なぜかフローターがない）

ducksonaroof
IT4 had an amazing floater
（IT4はフローターが超上手かった）

Sperm_Garage
He was also two inches taller, 30lbs heavier, talented at finishing through contact, and an elite three point shooter.
Yuki is more like Earl Boykins than IT.
（彼は2インチ高くて30ポンド重く、コンタクトでも決められたし3Pも一級品。ユウキはITよりアール・ボイキンス寄り）

johnbegoneX
All 7 of his assists were in the first half in just 7 minutes of action. Way more effective out there than Mac McClung was – that’s for sure.
（7アシスト全部前半7分で記録。マック・マクラングより明らかに効いてた）

BillionsofRedditors
He was the only + in the +/- for the Bulls last night at +3 in a game they lost by 16 points.
Billy couldn’t play him more than 12 minutes for fear of them actually having a chance to win!
（チームが16点負けたのに唯一プラスだったのが彼（+3）。ビリーは勝てそうになるのが怖くて12分以上出さなかったな！）

JasonKPargin
“Imagine if he was just a few inches taller” then he wouldn’t have been available, he’d be a famous player making huge money on another team
（「あと数インチ高ければ」って言うけど、そうならそもそも獲れてない。別チームで大金稼ぐ有名選手だよ）

McNasti
Chicago Bulls fans love to overrate their end of the bench players because they have a few good games (mostly because the opponents defense didnt scout them).
Remember Paul Zipser? We thought we had our SF of the future. Until People started actually defending him, that was.
（ブルズファンはベンチ末端が数試合良いと過大評価しがち（相手がスカウトしてないだけ）。ポール・ジプサー覚えてる？未来のSFだと思ったけど、ちゃんと守られたら終わった）

Sperm_Garage
Listen Tomas Satoransky can still make it man
（サトランスキーだってまだやれるからな）

ralphzillatron
This sub is so dumb
（この板アホすぎ）

xeroshogun
Love yuki but can’t play serious minutes with his size. Happy for him to get burn during our tank-a-thon
（ユウキは好きだけどこのサイズじゃ本気の時間は無理。タンク中に出番あるのは嬉しい）

sonybajor12
Bro is really Kuroko from Kuroko no basket fighting against generation of miracles
（こいつ完全に黒子で、キセキの世代と戦ってる）

run-donut
He’s insanely good. Imagine if he had just a tad more height.
（めちゃくちゃ上手い。あと少し身長あれば）

jloadin3
He’d be traded for a few 2nds
（2巡目数本でトレードされてたな）

run-donut
Ha! True!
（それなw）

dajadf
If there was an under 6 foot league he’d be putting up numbers
（6フィート以下リーグなら無双してる）

mynamestopher
i say we pool money together so he can get leg lengthening surgery
（みんなで金出して脚長手術させよう）

EsquireDr
He’s literally the only thing making it worth slightly following the bulls this season
（今季ブルズ追う価値がある唯一の理由だわ）

dudeguy81
Mugsy 2.0
（マグジー2.0）

Coylegrg4
Give him 3 games to adjust to the length of the defensive bigs and familiarity with players then he’ll cook!
（ビッグマンの長さと相手に慣れるのに3試合くれ。そしたら無双する）

bipolarearthovershot
That’s because he’s too short to shoot so everything is an assist grenade
（背が低すぎて打てないから、全部アシスト爆弾になってる）

bender445
Did you watch the game? How is he like Jokic? Like Jokic numbers is a lot different. The numbers that are in the box score at the end of the game doesn’t really tell the whole story you need to watch the game and see how he gets abused on defense. Sorry fun to root for the little guy but you are absolutely unhinged and don’t know ball whatsoever. Don’t post again please I beg you it gives me cancer
（試合見た？どこがヨキッチなんだよ。数字が全然違う。ボックススコアだけじゃ語れない。守備でボコられるの見てこい。小柄選手を応援するのは楽しいけど、お前は正気じゃないしバスケ分かってない。もう投稿しないで、マジで）

JBix7
At first I was like, man this guy is a little harsh, but what he is saying is true. But you just kept becoming a bigger dick the more I read. Take that energy somewhere else. Us bulls fans are beat down enough already, don’t need to do it to each other.
（最初はキツいなと思ったけど言ってることは正しい。ただ後半どんどん嫌なやつになってた。そういうノリは他所で。ブルズファンはもう十分しんどい）

sukari
Dude hard carries his national team.
（代表じゃ大黒柱だろ）

kennyloftor
maybe anyone can do this in whatever donovan’s system is?
if this dude can do it, when do we become curious what is giddey’s actual skill?
（ドノバンのシステムだと誰でもできるのか？この人ができるなら、ギディーの本当の実力って何なんだ）

godofhammers3000
Idk what the bulls are cooking but this guy makes the team fun to watch from a neutral perspective
（ブルズが何やってるか知らんが、この選手のおかげで中立視点だと面白い）

Front-Pain2103
When i said Jokic numbers I meant assists specifically!! Obviously Jokic is a 10x better rebounder and scorer than Yuki, should’ve been more clear. And I’m not suggesting he ever be a starter or anything, but he is absolutely a very valuable bench player with a ton of potential.
（ヨキッチ級って言ったのはアシストの話だけ！リバウンドと得点はヨキッチが10倍上。誤解させてた。先発になれとかじゃなく、ベンチで価値ある選手だと思う）

AMDSuperBeast86
Its a shame he is 5’8 because he’d be a perennial all star is he was over 6 foot
（5’8なのが惜しい。6フィート超えてたら常連オールスターだった）

Worried-Let9301
ブルズにはリムを広く守れるディフェンダーが一人も居ないから流れを切ってでも下げざるを得なかったんだよなぁ。残念ながら現在のブルズには合わない。
（ブルズにはリムを広く守れるディフェンダーが一人も居ないから流れを切ってでも下げざるを得なかったんだよなぁ。残念ながら現在のブルズには合わない）

jwbourne
He’s fun and that is enough for me right now.
（面白い。それだけで今は十分）

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moby323
I think he has the potential to be a role player for several years and actually get playing time and contribute.
Obviously it’s sort of situational when you can use him because teams *hunt* on defense
（数年はロールプレーヤーとして出番もらって貢献できる可能性はある。ただ守備で狙われるから使いどころは状況次第）

ECmonehznyper
you can be the best defensive average height guard in the history of NBA and you’d still be hunted by Forwards and Centers.
guards are hunted by taller and much stronger people and centers are hunted by faster guards even fckng wemby gets hunted by guards.
（平均身長ガードで史上最高の守備をしても、フォワードやセンターに狙われる。ガードは強くてデカい相手に狙われ、センターは速いガードに狙われる。ウェンビーですら狙われる）

moby323
It’s not tall forwards etc that will hunt him, it’s the guards in the NBA that are actually pretty good posting up, if they are being guarded by a shorter player they immediately post up.
（狙ってくるのは大型フォワードじゃなく、実はポストが上手いNBAガード。小柄に付かれたら即ポストアップする）

vycko12
I just saw Ja’Kobe Walter catch a lob pass over Yuki. And he’s not even that exceptionally tall for a SG.
（ジャコービ・ウォルターがユウキの頭上でアリウープ取るの見た。SGにしてはそこまで背高くないのに）

vycko12
I don’t think he’ll stick. Just last game I saw him drop a beautiful behind the back pass in transition to Buzelis for an assist. Then, literally next play on defense, a player just walked besides him, got easily deep in the paint, catch a lob pass over Yuki and lay it up. His offensive impact is not enough to justify his weakness on defense.
（定着は厳しいと思う。トランジションでブゼリスに背面パス→直後の守備で横に並ばれてペイント深く入り、頭上アリウープ。攻撃のインパクトが守備の弱点を補うほどじゃない）

Ok_Yoghurt9155
Agree. And what I never understand is why people have been treating him like a 19 year old unhidden gem since the last season. He is a soon-to-be 25-year old 5’6″ inefficient shot-chucking guard (in Japanese league) who tries to learn to be a floor general at the NBA level. Other than his flashy look-away passes, the other part of his offensive game is not good at all. Maybe that’s why Taylor Jenkins ignored fans’ “WE WANT YUKI” chant almost the whole 4th quarter even when they were up by 30 and usually didn’t even play him outside of the last 1-2 minutes of the game last season even when they didn’t have any point guards due to injuries.
The thing is that unserious organization like Grizzlies or Bulls have been using him as a kind of PR stunt for merch sales & social media engagement. They upload a Yuki assist/midrange clip on garbage time/throw away game here and there, people who only watch highlights see those, and then the comment section is filled with a bunch of posts like “Damn he’s so adorable he’s a legit NBA point guard, give him rotation minute/contract!”
（同意。なぜか去年から19歳の隠れた逸材みたいに扱われてるのが不思議。実際は25歳になろうとしてる5’6の非効率な乱発系ガード（日本リーグ）で、NBAで司令塔を学んでる段階。派手なノールック以外、攻撃は大したことない。だからジェンキンスが30点リードでも第4Qほぼ使わず、昨季も最後1〜2分以外ほとんど出さなかったんだと思う。
グリズリーズやブルズみたいな本気度の低い球団が、グッズ売りとSNS目的のPRに使ってる面もある。ガベージのアシストやミドルのクリップが上がって、ハイライトだけ見た人が「可愛いし正真正銘のNBA PG！ローテや契約を！」って騒ぐ）

fennourtine
haha leave my yuki merch alone mane, I got a dope reversible jersey because of him.
I think the run he had with team Japan in the olympics where he averaged 20-7 raised a lot of eyebrows, and while his passing has been as advertised, he’s just not been able to adjust to the NBA three.
（やめてくれ、俺のユウキグッズは守りたいw 彼のおかげでリバーシブルの良いジャージ買った。
五輪で平均20-7やったのが注目集めたし、パスは期待通り。ただNBAの3Pに対応できてない）

No-Economics4128
No. he is too small. Same situation as Mac Mclung. You can be the best athletic freak on the court, and that would not matter if you are not 6’4-6’5 in today NBA. Guards are getting bigger, and centers are moving like point guard these days. Whatever point he can score/assist would never be enough to make up for the point he would give up when the other teams target him.
He is a feel-good story of the month. But that Is about it.
（無理。小さすぎる。マック・マクラングと同じ。どれだけ身体能力があっても、今のNBAで6’4〜6’5ないと厳しい。ガードは大型化、センターはPGみたいに動く。得点やアシストでは狙われた時の失点を埋められない。
今月のほっこり枠。それだけ）

jts112
Just want to point out that McClung is now on the Bulls roster as well.
（ちなみにマクラングは今ブルズにいる）

No-Economics4128
Well, yall do have a type, eh
（そういう好みなんだね、君ら）

woosh_yourecool
Jamal Shead and Davion Mitchell are small NBA quality rotation players but they are also stronger and high motor defensive players
（ジャマール・シードやダビオン・ミッチェルは小柄でもローテ級。ただし体が強くてハイモーターの守備型）

jjjuuubbbsss
Look at Carsen Edwards. Summer League stats mean nothing if it can’t translate to the NBA, even in the garbage minutes.
It’s a pretty high bar but small players today have to emulate Payton Pritchard. Shoot well, have really good handles and ball security, and hustle.
（カーセン・エドワーズ見てみ。サマーリーグの数字はNBAで通用しないなら意味ない、ガベージでも。
小柄選手はペイトン・プリチャードを目指すしかない。高精度シュート、強いハンドルとボール管理、ハッスル）

Logiteck77
Payton Prichard, Reed Shepard, Colin Gilespie or TJ McConnell.
（ペイトン・プリチャード、リード・シェパード、コリン・ギレスピー、TJマコーネル）

jjjuuubbbsss
Too early for Reed and Colin but TJ for sure
（リードとコリンはまだ早いがTJは確実）

sergey_ford_dix
Why they all white lol
（なんで全員白人なんw）

Ok_Yoghurt9155
> I’ve been watching few of Yuki’s highlight
This is the problem. That’s why people like you think he will have a long NBA career, should get the rotation minutes, get a standard contract, or is an ideal backup point guard, etc. (I actually saw these comments everywhere last season, and Grizzlies didn’t even tender a two-way qualifying offer to him.)
He has no midrange/floater game. His offensive game is all about inefficient step-back/side-step circus rainbow difficult long 3-pointers, or acrobatic circus layup attempts around the rim (since his normal layup always gets blocked) which lowers his overall FG% even more. And it’s not only on the NBA court, it’s even in the G League. His occasional unnecessary look-away passes are cool but you wouldn’t like the amount of sloppy turnovers (his recklessness/low IQ + no vision/passing lane due to getting towered by tall/long defenders).
As for his defense, he plays like a matador. Lots of defensive collapse starts from him because he doesn’t move well laterally, really can’t defend/stay in front of anyone, or fight through screens. Also opponents often toy with him like THIS. And since you only watched his Summer League highlights, you obviously don’t know this, but he got blown by pretty easily. That was against 3rd string end-of-bench guys, undrafted rookies, or permanent G Leaguers. Those possessions are of course not included in highlights you watched.
His Japanese fanbase or media regularly gaslight, and people only watching highlights also doesn’t help either, but I never ever understand this hype. I’m 100％ sure anyone would hate a 5’6″ tiny point guard who can’t shoot & defend on your favorite team that tries to compete, even on a two-way contract.
（「ユウキのハイライト見てた」←これが問題。だから君みたいな人は長くやれる、ローテ入り、標準契約、理想の控えPGとか言う（去年も見たし、グリズリーズは2wayすら提示してない）。
彼にはミドル/フローターがない。オフェンスは非効率なステップバックやサイドステップの難しい長距離3、あるいはブロックされる通常レイアップの代わりの曲芸レイアップ。これがFG%をさらに下げる。NBAだけでなくGリーグでも同じ。たまのノールックは派手だけど、雑なターンオーバーの多さは耐えられないはず（無謀さ/低IQ＋長身に視界もパスコースも消される）。
守備は闘牛士みたい。横移動が悪く、誰にも付けず、スクリーンも抜けられないから崩壊の起点になる。相手に遊ばれることも多い。サマーリーグのハイライトしか見てないなら知らないだろうけど、簡単に抜かれてる。相手は3軍、ドラフト外、Gリーガーだよ。もちろんその場面はハイライトに入らない。
日本のファンやメディアが持ち上げるのも原因だが、この過熱は理解不能。勝ちに行くチームなら、シュートも守備もできない5’6のPGなんて2wayでも嫌われると断言できる）

Iwentoofar
Once playoffs come around, if he’s ever on a playoff roster the sad truth will be realized that he can’t really contribute to meaningful ball simply due to his size
（POになったら、サイズのせいで本当に役に立てない現実が露呈する）

Carlinjamesgk
No unfortunately – he’s too undersized. But I like how the bulls are giving the fans what they want and giving him PT knowing it’s a tanking year
（残念だけど無理、サイズ不足。ただタンク年だし、ブルズがファンの望み通り出場時間を与えてるのは良い）

MashDatButton13
There is a world where he can be a productive bench player. A short player’s biggest issue is their ceiling is believed to be capped (mostly due to defensive capability). Plus, a GM who has an extremely short player on their team will probably be judged harsher regardless of the analytics (similar to football coaches who used to be scared to go for it on fourth down). Wasn’t there a video produced recently that showed Brunson had the worst defensive analytics in the entire NBA? If you had a player of Brunson’s skill who had the same (bad) defensive stats but was shorter, can we really say height made a difference? This hypothetical player would almost assuredly not be a starter though.
Find a way to get him on Carlisle’s team. I think Rick could help him get a long career.
（生産性あるベンチ選手になれる世界はある。小柄選手の最大の問題は「上限が低い」と見られること（主に守備）。さらにGMは超小柄を抱えると指標に関係なく厳しく見られる（4thダウンで行けないNFLコーチと似てる）。ブランソンの守備指標がリーグ最悪って動画あったよね？もしブランソン級の技術で守備指標が同じでも背が低ければ、身長が理由と言い切れる？ただし先発にはならないだろう。
カーライルのチームに入れたい。リックなら長くやれるようにしてくれる）

AccomplishedStyle600
Don’t think so unless he somehow develops lethal 3pt shooting.
（よほど致命的な3Pを身につけないと厳しい）

nasty_clean
Unfortunately for Yuki there is a resurgence in long and strong point guards, so every switch he would be the mismatch.
So a quick search for active nba guards at 6’6″ gives us SGA, Luka, Jaylen Brown, Cade, Booker and a shitload more.
Yuki would need to have a bench of hussle players that are long for their positions, in the same way TJ McConnell has set up from the bench.
Yuki is 5’7 and not particularly strong. Tj has a very strong low center of gravity to work his way through traffic
（今のNBAは長身で強いPGが復活してるので、どのスイッチでもミスマッチ。
6’6の現役ガードをざっと挙げるとSGA、ルカ、ジェイレン・ブラウン、ケイド、ブッカーなど大量。
ユウキにはTJマコーネルみたいに、ポジションに対して長いハッスル系の控え陣が必要。
ユウキは5’7で強さもそこまでない。TJは低重心が強い）

Pop_Zestyclose
I need to see him guarding Victor
（ヴィクター守るところ見たい）

we_hella_believe
San Antonio Spurs if they needed another PG.
（スパーズがPG欲しいならアリ）

lalask
The day after the new scrubs played, Yuki goes 25 points, 13 assists, 2 rebounds in G-League. He’s not perfect, but given time to get familiar with his teammates he could be productive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vu02M1o3g4
（新加入が出た翌日にGリーグで25点13アシスト2リバウンド。完璧じゃないけど、味方と馴染む時間があれば生産的になれるかも）

No_Low7815
I think Yuki has the quickness plus heart and hustle. His height is a huge disadvantage for him in a league where the average player is almost a foot taller, but he has incredible basketball IQ and plays real hard. The only thing is his shooting has to improve for him to be an effective scorer at only 5’8. 29% from the field won’t cut it in the long term. He needs to get it to at least 40%.
（ユウキはスピードとハート、ハッスルがある。平均身長が1フィート近く高いリーグで身長は大きな不利だが、バスケIQは高く本当によく戦う。課題はシュート。5’8で得点源になるには改善必須。FG29%は長期的に無理で、最低40%に上げないと）

shredmiyagi
I’d rather sell high on Josh and Tre, and watch Yuki lead us to a top-3 pick while making sweet passes.
（ジョシュとトレを高値で売って、ユウキのパス見ながらトップ3指名に導いてほしい）

Savings-Bag7041
Takes a lot of talent to make it even this far with his height disadvantage. Think about how many people there are in the world that are his height or shorter and how you absolutely never see them in the NBA. Yuki deserves a lot of credit.
（この身長でここまで来るだけでも才能。世界中に同じ身長以下は山ほどいるのにNBAではほぼ見ない。ユウキは評価されるべき）

Over_Use_8474
Could be a bench player, provide a spark off the bench and ride the hot hand if he’s having a good night
（ベンチで火付け役になれる。調子が良い夜はそのまま乗せればいい）

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gostunv
Yuki the only one in the positive +/-. he is going to be the face of the NBA confirmed.
（プラスの+/-はユウキだけ。NBAの顔確定だな）

PorterB
Mac and Yuki only played 25 minutes. Not giving Dillingham run seems like a waste of an opportunity to develop while tanking
（マックとユウキ合わせて25分だけ。タンク中にディリンガムを育成しないのはもったいない）

Southernbull75
We finished the game with Yuki, McClung, Aussie Rook, Pwill and French guy from Knicks….this needs to be our starting lineup imo
（最後はユウキ、マクラング、豪州ルーキー、Pウィル、ニックスから来たフランス人。これが先発でいいと思う）