海外「完全にファウルだ」鈴木彩艶、セーブ連発も終了間際にラメンスの“体当たり”から同点被弾 マンU 4-4 ヴィラ【プレミア 海外の反応】

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鈴木彩艶 マンチェスター・U 4-4 アストン・ヴィラ

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did lammens not deliberately bump into suzuki

ラメンスのやつ、わざと鈴木にぶつかりに行ってない？

Lammens just absolutely laser focused on Suzuki is hilarious

ラメンスがボールそっちのけで鈴木だけをロックオンしてるの草

The keeper not fouled the keeper there? He's just watching him, waiting for him to move and then turns to back into him. No eyes on the ball, purely there to block the keeper.

これキーパーへのファウルじゃないの？ 鈴木が動くのをじっと見て待って、そこで振り返って背中からぶつかってる。ボールなんか見てない、完全にキーパーをブロックするためだけにそこにいる

That's a foul. Lemmens looks at him, never goes for the ball and bumps him to alter his contact with the ball. Lmao. Throwback to the Fergie days I guess.

ファウルだろ。ラメンスは鈴木を見てるだけで一度もボールに行かず、ぶつかって鈴木のパンチングを狂わせてる。ファーギー時代を思い出すわｗ

Lammens literally bumping into Suzuki with his back, with no intention to play the ball. That is a foul 100/100. Horrible referee.

ラメンスは背中で鈴木に体当たりしてて、ボールに行く気はゼロ。100人中100人がファウルと言う。審判ひどすぎ

if Arsenal scored that every single united fan would be up in arms about VAR corruption. That goal shouldn’t have stood.

もしアーセナルがこれで決めてたら、ユナイテッドファンは全員「VARの陰謀だ」って大騒ぎしてたぞ。このゴールは認められるべきじゃなかった

United fan here.

Its a foul, no doubt about it.

Referees and VAR have had a nightmare across all the games today.

ユナイテッドファンだけど、あれはファウル。疑いの余地なし。今日はどの試合も審判とVARが悪夢みたいだった

Liverpool fan here, I was absolutely raging at this not being given as a foul. Cunha’s body position and right leg are clearly impeding free upwards movement from Suzuki. Then you combine Lammens very clearly intending to back into him with no attempt on the ball whatsoever. In no way should this goal have been allowed. The refs and VAR should be ashamed of themselves.

リバプールファンだけど、あれがファウルにならなかったのは本気でキレた。クーニャの体の向きと右脚は、鈴木が真上に跳ぶのを明らかに邪魔してる。そこにボールに行く素振りもないラメンスの体当たりが重なってるんだから

Actually that is clearly a deliberate body check so yep, foul. Just doesn’t feel like an injustice though.

We fucked a two goal lead. Twice. That’s what I’m going to spend Sunday evening being annoyed about.

いや、あれは明らかに意図的なボディチェックだからファウルだよ。ただ、不当な判定をされたって気はしないんだよな。俺たちは2点リードを投げ捨てた。しかも2回も。日曜の夜はずっとそれにイラついて過ごすことになる

4th goal was a foul on Zion. But Villa need to defend better than that.

4点目はザイオンへのファウルだった。でもヴィラはもっとちゃんと守らないとね

Mate utd get given a gift again by the refs, lammesn literally bumps into Suzuki as he's mid air

ユナイテッドがまた審判からプレゼントをもらったな。ラメンスは空中にいる鈴木に普通にぶつかってる

Everyone shitting on Suzuki is wild to me our backline is in turmoil and he's out here compensating for it every game and u man are mad cuz he let In a corner?? We should be shutting that shit down before it gets to corners and we can't cuz the backline is doghshit...our defence is embarrassingly weak mattsen is dog water pau is severely lacking kamara usually goes missing and as good as linedloff is he isn't konsa meaning he can't carry the rest aswell as his own weight we have serious problems at the back and it's only going to result in Suzuki being overwhelmed and overworked in games.

みんなが鈴木を叩いてるのが信じられない。最終ラインがガタガタなのを毎試合あいつがカバーしてるのに、CKを1本決められただけでキレるのか？？ そもそもCKになる前に止めるべきなんだよ。それができないのはDFラインがひどいから

You can put it on suzuki but his shot stopping was good in these 2 matches because without it we get absolutely destroyed by Fulham and these lot. We have been so bad this week, so so bad we are so much worse in possession this season it's not even funny. We can only hope with all the turnover that this team can only improve over time.

鈴木のせいにするのは勝手だけど、この2試合のシュートストップは良かったよ。あれがなかったらフラム戦もこの試合もボコボコにされてた。今週のチームは本当にひどい。今季はボール保持が笑えないくらい悪くなってる

No keepers can defend corners when they're allowed to be boxed in and interfered with. Every time someone says "the keeper needs to be stronger there" I would like them to show me one example of a keeper being similarly interfered with who was strong enough to deal with it. That's why there was supposed to be a mandate to clean that up, but unfortunately like all league mandates, it lasted exactly two months before the refs went, nah we do what we want.

あんな風に囲まれて邪魔されたら、どんなキーパーでもCKは守れない。「キーパーはあそこでもっと強くいかないと」って言う人には、同じくらい邪魔されても跳ね返した例を見せてほしいね

No he hasn't, made some decent saves, but had to work more than he should have with a shit defence like us

いや、いくつか良いセーブをしてたよ。あんなひどい守備陣の後ろだから、本来以上に働かされてただけ

Suzuki still won't go down in my estimations but there's a clear weakness in his game. And if I can see it, you can bet opposing managers will have seen it

鈴木への評価が下がることはない。ただ明確な弱点はある。俺に見えてるってことは、相手の監督もとっくに気づいてるだろうけど

Villa bottling a 2 goal lead twice in the same match is crazy

1試合で2点リードを2回も逆転されずに守れないヴィラ、どうかしてる

This game is an all timer.

It somehow managed to encapsulate everything good and bad about both United and Villa

歴史に残る一戦。ユナイテッドとヴィラの良いところも悪いところも全部詰め込まれてた

Them salvaging a draw is funnier than them losing imo.

負けるより引き分けに持ち込んだ方が面白いわｗ

How has Unai Emery Unai Emery'd a game twice in the same game

ウナイ・エメリが1試合で2回も「ウナイ・エメリる」ってどういうことだよ

Box office for the neutral and a cardiac arrest for those invested

中立から見れば大当たり、どっちかのファンにとっては心停止モノ

Every Man United match is so fun to watch

ユナイテッドの試合って毎回見てて楽しいよな

It's actually unacceptable to be two goals up with six minutes left and not win a game of football.

6分を残して2点リードしてて勝てないなんて、本当に許されないよ

Suzuki no doubt hits a higher ceiling than Martinez in the long run but boy will it take a long time before he has the same presence in our box like Emi did. Other than sweeping from open play, I can't say he's surpassed Emi's level anywhere else.

Madjo was surprisingly bad too. Was excited to see him come on instead of Abraham but he poorly gave the ball away leading to their goal. Seems a bad idea to introduce him in high pressure games going forward

長い目で見れば、鈴木は間違いなくマルティネスより上の天井に届く。ただ、エミみたいな存在感をゴール前で出せるようになるまでには時間がかかりそうだな

You know why Suzuki seems like he’s so bad at corners and crosses?

Becuase that was what Martinez was best at.

He was imo the best goalkeeper in the world at claims when he was with us.

Suzuki has better attributes in other areas but his claims stand out Becuase we’re used to Martinez being so elite at them

鈴木がやたらCKやクロスに弱く見える理由、分かる？ それがまさにマルティネスの一番の武器だったからだよ。うちにいた頃のエミはハイボール処理で世界最高のキーパーだったと思う。鈴木は他の部分で上回ってるのに、ハイボールだけ目立っちゃうのはエミの基準に慣れすぎてるからさ

Fulham has killed his confidence in coming for set pieces, his shot stopping is fine. Hope he can get it back quickly because people as evidenced by this whole chain filled with people who don't actually watch us play will be piling on.

フラム戦でセットプレーに出ていく自信をなくしちゃったんだよ。シュートストップは問題ない。早く取り戻してほしい。このスレみたいに、普段うちの試合を見てない連中がここぞとばかりに叩いてくるだろうからね

he made some good saves I think his presence in the box can be questioned at times, and its cost us the last 2 games.. he can improve hes a big lad

良いセーブもあった。まだまだ伸びるよ。体だってデカいんだから